Wednesday, August 6, 2008
A time of readjustment
Given that last night was my first time back in the cities, I haven't had much time to gather my thoughts about being back in the US. I did a great deal of thinking (probably too much but that's what being in a remote allows) in Grand Marais and I suppose this was a good location to permit the jumble of thoughts and feelings emerge. To be honest, I am still trying to wrap my head around the fact that I am not going back to Korea (at least for a while). I feel like I am vacationing in Minnesota and heading back home to Seoul. I miss Korea so much already, but that's normal right? Reminiscing about your study abroad experience? The so-called "life changing" experience. Actually, I think study abroad should be mandatory (at least for the most part) because the students who don't choose to study abroad are often the ones who need this experience the most. I am recognizing various changes in myself (whether they are outwardly noticeable I don't know, but internally is more important to me). People have repeatedly told me it's a "growing," "time of your life," "out-of-body" experience. And well, this is one time where "I told you so" seems appropriate. However, it has only been a little over a week since I've been placed back in the states, so I know the adventure (make my mind pipe down just a little please) is far from over. It just seems strange to watch 6 months of my life end and return to what was once considered to be my normal life. I'm a pretty adaptable person, but this may take some getting use to. Either way my senior year (and all the hype-both good and bad-that comes with it) is quickly approaching. Don't worry. I will give it my all as usual, but I have a feeling that my travels will not cease to enter my mind on a regular basis.
My life may not be as interesting now that I have returned to the normalcy of life in St. Paul, but I may be updating this blog every once in a while (whether anyone reads it or not!) Thanks for following me on my journeys throughout the past months. ^^
Monday, July 21, 2008
Last few days in Seoul
It's 7:41am in Korea. The air in my dormitory seems damp, but then again the past few days have been accumulating a fair amount of moisture (given that it is the rainy season). My roommate returned to the states early, so the room is quiet with the exception of the random beeping of the air-conditioner and sounds of water droplets from my bathroom which is still freshly soaked from a shower that gave the entire room a good stray-down.

Study abroad advisers, professors, friends back home and so on are always talking about how people "change" after coming back from abroad. It just depends in what way. I think the level of change just depends on each individual case. During this semester, I know I have grown (not physically...as far as I am aware of but you know what I mean) but not necessarily "changed" (at least by the definition that you have in mind. I have been trying to be open-minded to nearly everything during this experience but at the same have held on pretty tightly to who I am. So, as far as I know, good ol' Emily Kessel is coming back to MN. I might make several attempts to dodge my plane flight, but in the end the inevitable will happen (I'll some how make it onto that plane...actually 3 planes given my layovers). So, no worries.

Wherever this blog decided to place this photo:[first night out with the group from the ESWS/ Ewha's language program] -->
Thursday, July 10, 2008
Life at Ewha: Nothing to Hide ^^
My placement test landed me in level 2, which is definitely a challenge. The class is conducted entirely in Korean, which is probably the best way to learn (out of necessity), so immediately I was given a wake-up call, "Need to work on my listening and speaking skills...practice (hopefully) makes perfect." I need to make practical conversation more a priority instead of just grammar, but it is difficult because in level 2, there are so many grammar points that I need to catch up on. However, what I would prefer getting out of this experience is the skill to communicate at least the point that I will have a stronger (although I already plan to return here) reason and desire to travel back to Korea in the near future. The levels are Ewha are a bit different than Yonsei because they are split into mini levels within each level such as 1.1, 1.2... We shall see. Let's hope that sitting in a class (no doozing off allowed or Emily will become a little more than a teensy bit confused). My class consists of two students from Hong Kong, two from France, one from Canada and three from Japan. Everyone seems cool including the teachers, which is reassuring. Let's see if they can top my Yonsei class though haha. No, I won't do rankings because everyone is amusing in a different way. I'm trying to continue to meet with my friends from the previous semester (and in between stage-vacation time) as well as get to know people from this program. Can I extend my stay please? ;)
By the way, the graduate dormitories are quite a sight. The rooms are spacious (meaning the beds are not 1 inch...excuse me cm... apart), have a modern look/feel and there is no curfew (unlike many of the dorms in Korea). I have even adjusted to the Korean-style bathrooms with the shower and toilet smashed into the same room. Remember my earlier blog (Bangkok) I was quite frightened or rather irritated by the idea of showering in the same area as going to the bathroom? This phenomenon no longer bothers me. Actually I find it rather convenient, as long as the drain remains clogfree. I think of this style bathroom as a quick way to hosed0wn the floor every 24 hours.
Yet again I have landed myself a good roommate. Phew. Grace is another Children's Home Society/Eastern program participant, who is from Oklahoma.
We'll be in touch soon.
Saturday, June 28, 2008
And another chapter begins
On the 22nd of June, I moved out of my apartment in 신촌 (Shinchon) and took a short journey to 경주 (Gyeongju) with my friend, Lonny's family. We road-tripped it in a mini-van (다 여자 ^^) with her mom, aunts and cousins. Her family brought an assortment of Korean snacks to munch on at the various rest stops. Upon arrival at our hotel, we strolled in with our baggage and food for the upcoming dinnerhour. Instead of eating out at a restaurant, her aunts brought out freshly purchased meat, vegetables, rice and so on. This was quite a pleasant surprise. Normally when I take a family vacation or tag along with an American friend, we never ever considered preparing a meal in our hotel room. I found this rather refreshing. If I ever intend to polish up my cooking skills, so I can challenge one of the Food Network stars to a cooking battle and not be put to shame.
Currently the area is surrounded by buses and police force (due to the protests, which I still am trying to understand...for a number of reasons).
I am so glad that my friends recommended this place. It is a house for Korean adoptees from various parts of the world. Actually I wasn't aware of the number of adoptees living in the Scandinavian countries. And surprise surprise, many adoptees from the US are from ...Minnesota (not all). Everyone had such unique upbringings and are coming back to Korea at different points in their lives. I was amazed how quickly I began to feel at home (damn that sounds cheesy). I don't know why, but there is just something comforting about being surrounded by people who have a major thing in common. Although how one identifies or thinks about this greatly differs (no clumping everyone together). I've had some of the most profound, intense and light-hearted conversation in only a matter of days. It's interesting to hear their differing thoughts on various manners (what brought them to Korea, views on adoption, upbringings, Korean culture in general and other topics not related to such matters...). I am learning a great deal from everyone, but this does not surprise me. People fascinate me fr numerous reasons.
I tend to be a reflective person, but lately I find this to be even more so. I believe it has something to do with nearing the end of my years as an undergraduate student, spending a significant amount of time away from home (in MN) and asking questions that are causing my mind to spiral in more directions than I can keep track of. Everytime I think I have found an answer the path crumbles and my once clear vision becomes a blur. Everyone keeps reminding me that this is all normal or I suppose I would be more of stolid, mindless drone. Yeah yeah, I know they're right, but sometimes frustration becomes a little too powerful (don't worry it's not too visible on the surface). But anyways, I'm still thoroughly enjoying my time in Korea. It helps that I have a small break between the my Yonsei semester and Ewha class to "cool down" (as is noted on my YMCA trendmill after a heart-pumping jog). Hope you all are doing well.
잘 보내요!
Wednesday, June 11, 2008
A brief 안녕!
Last weekend I travelled to Jeju Island with three friends for the extended weekend. It seemed like we used nearly every mode of transportation during our short stay (train, boat, multiple taxis, foot...). Jeju turned out to be quite the adventure (that is when we made it Jeju), but I believe that unpredicable occurances make life a million times more exciting. Let's just say that we had to make more than a few minor changes to our agenda. ^^ I'll explain soon.
Currently, I am in the middle of finals, so a good chuck of my time has been dedicated to studying. I will be relieved to have them finished.
However, I did post new photos on facebook. Here is a link to my photo album, but it is also linked to my blog. Until I can write again, I hope this will occupy a little time.
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2073926&l=14047&id=40103756
By the way, here is a link for the Poongmul group members!
http://hdw1266.cafe24.com/3779781/AddrME.htm
Tuesday, May 20, 2008
대동제 뭉 아카라카 (Yonsei's Festival!)
I wish I could extend my stay just so I enjoy the fall festival, which I heard is even more elaborate. ㅎㅎㅎ Well this isn't the main reason, but it definitely would be a plus.

Never before have I seen such a lively batch of students. It is an understatement for me to say that Korea university students have school spirit. After the initial shock of beinyanked forward, backward, left and right (not in the normal sense you may be picturing) I was fully awake. "왼쪽, 오른쪽...!"
When cheering, dancing and singing you were anything but stationary. Even if you wanted to stand quietly in place I doubt your surrounding peers would permit such behavior! There were two Japanese exchange students seated to my right. The guy was quite an interesting fellow (sooo enthusiastic), while the girl was a bit reserved. I suppose the energy rubbed off because after having someone abruptly grab me around the shoulders, I followed suit and pulled this girl right down with me. Not to worry. This helped loosen everyone up! Oh AKARAKA. And this took place without the appearance of popular Korean singers.
Thursday, May 8, 2008
Prepartion for the upcoming Poongmul Performance-- muscles, bruises and things of that nature
As I said before, there is something to be said about struggling through a situation and reaching success in some form. Lia is playing the janggu (장구). Pang is playing the sogo (소고). And I am playing the puk (북). Not to sound cheesy, but I am proud of both of them. Good work girls! I just hope we will be ready by Wednesday (considering that we just learned our instrument solo sections yesterday ha!) and function with the large hats on our heads.
However, I have to admit that there is something extremely satisfying about working towards
Past members of the poongmul group often come to observe our practice and bring snacks. And yesterday they ordered pizza (sweet potato pizza is my favorite). They are rewarding us for our hard work and dedication in preparation for the performance. This is a common practice in Korean. Actually, I often am unsure how to handle a situation in which someone who is older or more experienced (in drumming, etc) offers to treat me to something. However, I have become more accustomed to this cultural gesture.
After each practice the group sits in a circle and reflect on the happenings of practice. During this ordeal, my friend and I attempt to use Korean, which the rest of the group finds endearing (or amusing). We tend to use the same words everyday (with a slight variation), but puttig forth the effort is good. The group listens intently when the three international students speak. Oh my. This is one thing that makes this Yonsei club (데) unique. I have rarely felt such a strong sense of unity and acceptance in groups I have been involved in the states. It is difficult to explain. I wish you could be here to see and experience the group atmosphere.
Well, I shall notify you about how the performance goes. Keep your fingers crossed that we will be able to stay focuses, alert and energetic for the entire 1.5 hour performance! Take care everyone. ^^
Wednesday, April 30, 2008
Korean Class and Fish Ice cream

As was demonstrated in a previous blog (corn ice cream), Korea holds many wonders and fish ice cream is one of my favorites.
A few updates:
-Survived midterms: I typed up a lengthy vocab, grammar sheet for myself which proved to be quite useful. Apparently, old study habits that developed in the US aren't shed as you fly overseas. This much I am thankful for. Plus, Korean typing is actually quite entertaining (although not as amusing as Korean text messaging--문저).
-Watched 2 independent films at a Women's Film Festival: Hounded (German film), Never Forever (Korean film)
-heu-die-ee-deu chee-kin (fried chicken)
-Started buk(북)/ drumming practice-- every day (and/or night) for 2 weeks! Talk about a mind and body workout
More updates to come... in the near future. So keep your eyes glued to this site (not literally though... or I will feel bad). ;)
Thursday, April 17, 2008
4 days in 일본 (Japan)

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I noticed many small cultural differences during my time in Seoul and Japan (although I have not visited Tokyo). In Japan, I was permitted to shop without having several employees surround me. People duck out of your way if you are taking a photo, rather than walking through it. Secondly, cars seemed to be passive-aggressive by softly honking there horns, while in Seoul a driver would nearly run me, as a pedestrian over unless I quickly moved out of the way. Thirdly, it was easy to catch a taxi (doors automatically opened), while in Seoul we frantically attempted to flag down a taxi driver. Overall, initially people seem more polite, but I think it has something to do with how the two cultures define "personal space." And when eating, it was accustomed to lift the bowl to your mouth rather than keep it on the table. Japanese cuisine was usually not spicy, which was a switch from the red pepper sauce that was present in most Korean dishes. I am trying to acquire a taste for seafood, so I sampled everything that was served to me including eel, baby squid and raw fish. I will continue to work on acquiring a taste for some of the dishes... but remember, I tried! We were served a dainty dessert at most of the meals, which was a pleasant surprise because in Korea this usually does not happen (usually fruit or tomatoes with sugar<--yum! is considered a dessert).
"V" for victory still applies in Japan... This photo reminds me of the Korean boys high school I visited in 2006. Those who were on the tour with me, remember this experience?
I do miss the clean air from those 4 days! But here is a video to remember the fabulous Japanese technological hospitality. I have decided to post the video horizontally for your viewing please... Tilt your head ever so slightly. I suppose it allows for you lay down while viewing my blog... Careful not to get splashed.
Sunday, March 30, 2008
Do you have what it takes to join the Drumming Club?
--Side note: I have never seen so many umbrellas. To simplify the situation, attempting to work your way through a crowd is a challenge. People use umbrellas when it's raining (even drizzling), snowing and to protect from the sun, but sunglasses are not popular even on the sunniest days.--
On a rainy day this was the perfect place to escape the dreary day and this group definitely puts everyone in a good mood. Saturday was initiation day in which the club welcomed new members and invited former members to a watch a performance and participate in various activities. Being the only "foreigners" in the group, my friends and I had no idea what the day entailed, but this adds to the element of surprise and excitement right...?
First, the new members gathered together to plan some form of entertainment for the rest of the club. Bouncing back ideas was quite amusing because it was difficult to translate "creative" ideas. Let's just say that my cell phone dictionary and I became quite close. After formulating a plan we were escorted to a more spacious room in a neighboring building. After our performances, the group formed a large circle. All of a sudden select members entered the center of the circle with to introduce themselves, recite some kind of chant, drink a "special" mixed drink and sing a short solo. My shoulder muscles tightened when I realized each new member (including the foreigners) were expected to partake in this as well.
Mission accomplished. Now off to watch the group perform!
(and join the festivities!)
...followed by (you guessed it) 삼겹설 sam gip sal
Sunday, March 23, 2008
Randoms Thoughts
Random Thoughts:
*Commercialized Holiday: March 14: White Day- guys buy flowers, candy, etc for their girlfriends (Valentine's Day there is a reverse of roles)
*Entertaining Konglish(콩글리시): topless car= convertible
eye shopping= window shopping
secret number= password
*Why is notebook paper longer than the folders?
-Kimchi Chigae (김치찌개)
-Bibimbop (비빔밥)
-Samgyupsal(삼겹살)
-Ddeokbokki (떡볶이)
-Green tea latte (녹차)
-Milk (유우) is much better in Korea--- including the flavored milk (banana, soy... yeah...)
-I'm also a fan of ice cream even when it's chilly outside: melon bars, walnut, etc (corn ice cream is tasty) ------------->
**Cell phones have the best pre-made "expressions" for text messaging. Much better than the typical :)
(even though you all know that I am a big fan of this classic smiley)
Insadong-->
-making 떡
*Constant playing of music while roaming the Yonsei campus, Shinchon streets
Yonsei University--------------------------->
*Note to self: -keep my hands firmly by my side when someone aggressively shoves a piece of paper or some other tangible item at me...
-pushing in a subway or adamantly claiming your place in line at Grand Mart is NOT rude (아주머 do not feel bad about pushing you aside haha)
<--- hilarious show!
-Mountain Climbing (Do Bong Mt.) ------------->
Happy Easter everyone!
Monday, March 10, 2008
Good Morning Korea
I can feel my leg muscles tighten as I learn to speed walk through the crowded streets, my stomach beg to enter Red Mango and the various restaurants and my ears strain to understand the KPop music playing from cell phone and clothing stores. My definition of personal space has transformed or rather become nonexistent, as it is rare to have more than a few inches of breathing space between myself and the person in front of me. But despite all the people, I feel extremely safe among the crowds as long as I watch my step as my foot enters the pavement. Crosswalks do not guarantee your safety. I confidently stick my sneakers into the road and move with the mass of people.
Girls and guys alike are definitely up on the latest fashion. My clothing and lack of makeup most likely marks me as someone who has not lived in Seoul for an extended period of time, but my face permits me to blend in to an extent. Being a Korean-American (Kyopo), people will often speak to me in Korean, but the minute I open my mouth my nationality becomes apparent. Even when I use my short phrases and small vocabulary I am sure that my pronunciation could use a great deal of improvement. The need to study hard in my language class has increased (at least in my eyes). Luckily I am learning to navigate my way around the Yonsei campus in a speedy fashion, so library here I come! Or at least that's where I intend to go until I am distracted a number of other attractions. And I keep telling myself this is only the beginning, but time is escaping me.
Tuesday, March 4, 2008
Am I really in Korea?

I am in Korea. No really. I am LIVING in Korea for a semester. This minor detail did not really start to register in my brain until… today. People who have studied abroad in the past have told me that this realization process slowly sinks in as time elapses. So according to this theory, I am right on track. Some friends from my program and I were skirting through the streets of Sinchon bouncing-off-the-wall-and-heated-floors thrilled (somehow excited does not quite cut it) to take in the bittersweet smell, taste, unraveling hints of freedom. Apparently this is what a weeklong orientation session does to a college student (or maybe it’s just me). Although I was a completely captivated as the “master” of ceramics created pot, bowl, pitcher… (you name it) at one of three folk villages we visited. We attempted to follow his skillful example as we sculpted our own piece of pottery. And we were able to take advantage of the heated floors as we ate dinner on a low table with seat cushions. Being the Korean-food-loving nut that I am, I have no complaints about the food. J During the weekend in Kyeong Joo, we also watched a traditional mask dance, Korean seesaw and drum performances.
When I was growing up, my family and I made our own Korean seesaw with wooden boards from Menards and by “borrowing” sandbags from the street corners. I am assuming that the construction workers didn’t lose too much sleep over the mysterious disappearance of their sacks of sand. I wish I could concoct a more high-tech version of the seesaw, similar to the one at the folk village, so when I return to the states… here is yet another thing to add to my to-do list.
The most interesting place we visited was the DMZ (demilitarized zone between North and South Korea). With our hardhats and leg muscles, our group walked through one of the four tunnels that was discovered between the seventies and nineties by South Korea, which offered proof that North Korea may have been planning an attack on the south yet again.
By last night I was exhausted and eager to be released from released from orientation. Jumping into my bed in Casa Ville (hotel/apartment) never sounded more appealing. My roommate, Kelly and I crashed hard into the beds, which are literally an inch away from one another.
Today was my first day of classes, but before walking to the Yonsei campus, I went to Eastern Social Welfare Society (ESWS) to find an open volunteer time at the adoption agency. I had visited the agency on my previous trip to Seoul, so once I located the building the interior looked familiar. I was given a blood test (I am determined to “overcome” almost every fear I have while in Korea… that includes needles…) and selected a time on the weekend to volunteer. I will be helping take care of infants and toddlers, which I am excited about this opportunity.
After leaving ESWS, I wandered back to Yonsei. The campus is quite a bit larger than St. Thomas or at least it seems this way since I am not familiar with the university yet. I can’t wait to explore of the campus (and Seoul… and Korea in general) these next coming months. My language class will begin tomorrow. Well, I shall leave you with a swift goodbye since I should probably attempt to get some rest since I have find my class tomorrow morning. Goodbye for now!
Sunday, February 24, 2008
Arrival in Seoul!
Oh, and I'm trying to get used to announcing that I am 23 years old (Korean age) instead of 21 (in the states).
Last night we went over to a relative's (brother's) home to watch a professional soccer game (Korea vs. Japan). My eyes were glued to the screen and I'm usually not a huge sports fan. Soccer is very popular in Korea. I would love to watch a live game while I am here. The World Cup takes place in 2008, but tickets are VERY hard to come by.
Tomorrow I will move to my dormitory or apartment. Orientation begins on Tuesday! Until then, take care!

My CIEE group!
Friday, February 22, 2008
Taipei
I sat in for a couple of Grant's classes, which was quite the experience. Actually the first course sylabi was similar to one of journalism courses at St. Thomas, except the the class size was doubled or tripled with a different classroom environment. The professor had car trouble so he made his appearance late to Grant's second class. So, the students made use of the time by either mingling with one another or attempting to make a joint decision concerning a party held for "the chosen" professors. Although I did not completely understand the discussion (given that I am not too familiar with Mandarian), this is what I could comprehend with the help of Grant's roommate, Scott. There was not order to this "voting"/decision-making process, but that's what held my attention I suppose. Oh chaos can be good sometimes. :) But we ducked out early so I could explore the campus. He accomplished his task (designated by Grant) to show me the university, although I was not allowed to enter the 5-star library haha.
Following suit with the large class sizes, in general Taipei is quite a crowded city, especially compared to St. Paul, MN where everything is spread out and the population density is nothing compared to this. I suppose this is preparing me for Seoul, Korea, which will be my next and final destination. There were some Korean tourists in Taipei, but a majority were from Japan. It has been interesting to see who are the main visitors in each country. For instance, my motorbike drivers told me that Cambodia is a popular vacation spot for Koreans.
Grant introduced me to numerous parts of Taipei life, filling each day with many sights and activities. Let's just say that I was never bored. The first day, we explored Taipei City Hall with his friend Alan, which allowed me to catch a glimpse of the modern, trendy lifestyle. And what lies in Taipei City Hall you may ask? Taipei 101, which is the tallest building in the world. We took the elevator, which holds another record (fastest elevator), reaching the 89th floor in 27 seconds. (Hong Kong is home to the longest escalator in Soho). Madde, Megan, Al and Joan, I thought of you as I gazed out from the top. ;)
Somehow we even managed to visit the National Palace Museum and Longshan Temple, which received high recommendations in my Taipei books (and I understand why).
Well, now I am in Seoul, which is another story in itself, but you shall hear about this in the mere future!
Sunday, February 17, 2008
Farewell Cambodia
It has just hit me that my time in Cambodia has come to an end. I am off to Taipei tomorrow (mid-afternoon). I feel as if I am being tossed back and forth between entirely different cultures, underdeveloped versus consumer-driven, and yes... weather conditions (but no complaints considering the weather I left behind in Minnesota). I spend a couple days visiting the typical tourist attractions, which are worth seeing, but it has been nice to also just see Phnom Penh by various modes of transportation including motorbike (most "freeing" ride ever), tuk tuk and yes on foot. I won't bore you with all the details about each place I ventured into, because yes I understand that firsthand accounts and photographs are more visually pleasing and attention-grabbing. Wat Phnom (place from which Phnom Penh derives its name) and the Royal Palace are two places one should visit while in the city.
I spent a good amount of time staring at the modes of decor in and surrounding the structures of the palace. Oh yes, and I was chased by a guard for wandering a little outside of the restricted parameters... If you need to know more, find the Australian guy I met on the stairs. While in Wat Phnom, I snapped a photo of the last elephant to survive the rule of Khmer Rouge (not the last elephant in Cambodia though).
Actually, my favorite part about Cambodia has been visiting with the various people (being overseas travelers and locals). Actually, on Valentine's Day (was reminded by the numerous couples riding around on motorbikes carrying flowers-- it's celebrated in Phnom Penh... western influence perhaps?), I had a long conversation with the lady taking admission tickets for Wat Phnom. She spoke with me about relationships, in particle relationships between Cambodian women and Caucasian men. It was interesting to hear her thoughts about this phenomenon. She herself had been proposed to twice; one time being only 2 weeks after they had met. The man had promised her a nice home and wealth, but being a strong women, she only wished to marry for love and had not known this fellow for a long enough period of time. This being said, she said that many women here do accept such proposals. And today, I spent time with a boy from Phnom Penh who provided me with another insight. He told me how he has not had many girlfriends because Cambodian (and other women) are not attracted to guys of his dark skin color and money situation. It appears that women have an easier time than me at breaking away from a certain lifestyle, but the details I do not know. Some people are just attracted to a certain look (race, eye color, etc), while others may be attracted to the stereotypical connotations that go along with a certain group of people. It was interesting to hear the various opinions of people I met along my way. I have been contemplating the whole notion of what men and women are truly looking for in a partner and what conditions affect their decisions.
I cannot tell you how many people asked me if I am married (not whether I have a boyfriend, but whether I am married). Another popular game has been guessing where I am from. It seems that everyday my country of origin changes. One day, people were speaking random Korean phrases to me (assuming I am Korean) and the next asking whereabouts in Japan I live. And the woman and housekeeper of the family I am currently staying with said believe I look Chinese. All this guessing makes me chuckle, but at the same time question my paperwork. Am I really a full-blood Korean? Personal identity. Maybe this is something best left to explore along the way tweaking the information here and there (no set in stone information/descriptions). But one thing is for certain, I am westernized whether I like it or not. The minute I open my mouth it is obvious that I am from the US. I did try pulling off as being from Canada once, but the person I was trying to fool turned out to be from Canada herself. So she obviously didn't buy into my act, but we did discuss Thunder Bay for a while...
to the right--> Cambodian "pancake"